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BIRD vs Blade

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john o keeffe

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Most of us here are getting on a bit - hence the quote "the Bird is an old mans bike". Not true but when you get on a bit, your kids are reared and you have the time to ride longer and further. You cant do this on a sports bike - well at least I cant. So the way I look at it is you ride what suits the type of riding you do.
My gang like to blast, but also travel and tour hence we drive BBs, hayabusas, ZX12s. These choices were made after suffering the aches and pains of going distances on R1s, GSXRs and Blades. So now when we head off for the weekend the 1000ccers decline - why - there in their 40s and cant go the distance. But if its just a quick blast we are with the sports machines all the way - including the twisties.
 

Smix

Fcuk Up Fairy
john o keeffe said:
Most of us here are getting on a bit - hence the quote "the Bird is an old mans bike". Not true but when you get on a bit, your kids are reared and you have the time to ride longer and further. You cant do this on a sports bike - well at least I cant. So the way I look at it is you ride what suits the type of riding you do.
My gang like to blast, but also travel and tour hence we drive BBs, hayabusas, ZX12s. These choices were made after suffering the aches and pains of going distances on R1s, GSXRs and Blades. So now when we head off for the weekend the 1000ccers decline - why - there in their 40s and cant go the distance. But if its just a quick blast we are with the sports machines all the way - including the twisties.
Just remember - some of us are young girlies, not old(er) blokes :k !!!!!!! And yes I take the Bbird on long distances, but I also do a 40mile round trip commute on it every day from spring to early winter!!! It does do both very well!! (And I get to 'play' with other commuters!):neenaw:
 
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BlackBirdBaz

Guest
Rather have another SP1 or SP2 personally, far more fun. :bow:
 
C

cbr11xx

Guest
OT: Blade recall

Slightly off topic, but i've just received a Recall Notification for Front Fork Pipe - CBR900RR (00, 01, 02, 03 YM) for my previously owned CBR900RRY.

A small number of cases have been reported relating to a fracture discovered in the left or right hand front fork pipe lower casing.

Fracture occurs as a result of stress corrosion cracking. Possibility of this happening is extremely low, etc...

The rectification work should take approx 2.5 hours - free of charge.

If you haven't received this Recall Notifiaction I would contact the below:

Direct Dial Number: 01753 590510 (Mon-Fri 9am-5pm)
Email: customer.servicemc@honda-eu.com
Reference: AS05008 RM/2005025
 

SILVERONE

Registered User
Duck n Dive said:
Agree with you... but also no matter what we might try and claim I don't believe anyone buys a bike based on "best tool for the job". We buy what our heart says and then try and justify it!! ......... Go on, admit it!!!

g0551p

I wish I could, but I swapped the Blade (RRT) for the Bird, being a sad old git.
I should of have save the Blade as well but at the time we couldn't aford it brok3 ,
but the Bird's turned out to be a good all-rounder, that is where (in my veiw) it's better than the Blade :yo:
 

Allan

Registered User
Read all About it !!!!

So, enter the 2002 FireBlade - the sixth model to bear the name - with a package of modificatons so comprehensive that it might justifiably be called a new bike. Most obvious is the revised styling, fronted by a far sharper and more aggressive fairing and headlight design than the previous blunted visage, although the bike still lacks the integrity of line that identifies machines such as Ducati's 998 and Yamaha's reshaped R1.

The four-cylinder engine is fitted with 1mm larger pistons, taking the capacity out by 25cc to 954cc, yet despite this the cylinders are spaced more closely and the pistons themselves are lighter: technology continues to advance. The fuel injection is uprated and with this and other changes, Honda has squeezed another 3bhp from the motor. More importantly, it has produced a substantial increase in mid-range power to back up the 148bhp maximum.

Detail changes to the frame and a new, massive aluminium-alloy swingarm have resulted in improved rigidity, with a total weight reduction of 4.4lb, giving the FireBlade a class-leading mass of 370lb - lighter than most 600s, too.

Whether you regard all this as impressive or plain intimidating (in keeping with the FireBlade's original concept), Honda's concentration on improving rider control means it's not quite as mad as it sounds. The overriding impression from the bike's press launch at the technical Estoril circuit in Portugal is one of controllability, which is just as well with a bike boasting a power-to-weight ratio approaching that of a Saturn V rocket. It is indeed fabulously quick - Honda doesn't specify a top speed figure but it's certainly around the 175mph mark, with the sort of low-gear acceleration a fighter pilot would recognise.

But the performance is unquestionably easier to use than it was on old 'Blades, particularly because of that medium-range torque boost. A circuit outing used to mean spinning the engine at or near its red line to make the most of the performance, but with the new version it's often a cannier move to change up early and use the torque to pull you through a corner. The throttle control becomes more forgiving, traction increases and the chances of inadvertently spinning the back tyre through a momentary twitch of the right hand are reduced.

As with the outgoing FireBlade there is still a question mark over the fuel injection, which is intolerant of hamfistedness below 3,000rpm, but otherwise the delivery has lost the difficult sharpness it once had and generally behaves extremely well; beyond 3,000rpm, it's flawless.

Satisfyingly - if you like this sort of thing - the chassis once again hints at the first FireBlade's wilder character. Power out of a corner (power is something you're never short of) and the front wheel eagerly heads skywards as the bars flap and shake from side to side, although it drops down again easily and wobble-free, ready to be flung into the next turn, where the bike leans with delightful speed and changes direction with enough force to squeeze you down on to the fuel tank, the beautifully damped suspension offering huge grip in combination with the Bridgestone tyres.

Taming the motor is a ferocious pair of four-piston Nissin brake calipers. If there is still an area where the bike's usability could be improved it's here, as the brake action isn't entirely linear. With the first squeeze of the lever the deceleration is immense and fierce - fine on a track but maybe a liability on a wet and greasy winter road - yet serious track-day riders will find the increase in retardation after this first pull doesn't continue at the same rate. Add more pressure to the lever and there's not as much more to come as you might expect. For road riders this is an irrelevance (as, indeed, is much of the FireBlade's performance) but like all of the current big sports bikes, it's still an enormously satisfying ride at normal, everyday speeds because of the sheer tactile pleasure that comes with such high-quality componentry.

So, the big question: is it better than an R1 or GSX-R1000? Without a stopwatch and side-by-side testing that's very difficult to say for sure. On the basis of seat-of-the pants feel, I have some doubt that the FireBlade could better the Suzuki in the hands of an experienced racer. But for the occasional track-day rider, and on the road, its outstandingly forgiving nature and ease of use will likely set the Honda in front.

It doesn't match the great leap forward of the original, and that shouldn't be expected, as it's still an incremental improvement, not a conceptual change. But it's right on the (very hot) pace, and in the hands of the majority of riders it will be setting that pace. The new FireBlade is a gorgeous bike that will continue to hit the highs in the sales charts. Just as it deserves.

2002 Honda FireBlade

Price/availability: ?9,045 on the road. On sale January.

Engine/transmission: 954cc, liquid-cooled, fuel-injected, transverse four-cylinder with four valves per cylinder; 148bhp at 11,250rpm, 77lb ft of torque at 9,500rpm. Six-speed gearbox, chain final drive.

Performance: (estimated) top speed 175mph, average fuel consumption n/a.
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
LOL

Lightweight bike for lightweight riders

As my [very] old mate Bill Lomas used to say "You canna beat cubes"
 

Bob Pinder

Registered User
Fat Bert said:
Lithe bike for lithe riders

As my [very] old mate Cylops used to say "You canna beat curtains"


Don't forget this pic was taken FOUR hours BEFORE you arrived despite leaving SIX hours after YOU :tosser:
 

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Allan

Registered User
Bob Pinder said:
Don't forget this pic was taken FOUR hours BEFORE you arrived despite leaving SIX hours after YOU :tosser:
What a disgusting state to let a bike get in, you should be ashamed, and dont tell me there wasnt a hose pipe at Pete's b0x1

Buzz
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
What Pinder didn't say~~~

Was that he rode backwards for most of the trip.

You should have seen the bugs on his rear [tail light that is]

Load of old nonsense LOL
 

Allan

Registered User
lumpy said:
It was actually about 4 minutes before certain Cretins turned up despite leavig 6 hours later.:lol:
Yea, well right but, you live just round the corner innit eh?

Buzz
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
So who's next~~~~~~

So who's next to fall prey to "Blade Flu" ???

I know but it would be remiss......................... g0551p

and where exactly are Honda Lancaster based??

Is it near a zoo?
 

Allan

Registered User
Fat Bert said:
Cos "that person" has gone and done it this afternoon
Har har, another one joins the fold.

Like rats from a sinking ship me thinks...

Soon there wont be many of of you left.

Buzz
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
Yeah right~~~!!

Allan said:
Har har, another one joins the fold.

Like rats from a sinking ship me thinks...

Soon there wont be many of of you left.

Buzz


And we'll still kick your ass!

No doubt that riding god LORD PINDER will be along in a minute to put all us right!!
 
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