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Hi Jono,
My advice.
At first, up to about 500mls just be gentle with it, neither letting the engine labour or using lots of revs. Don't let the engine stay at any one speed for too long either. Use the gearbox to the full too and remember that tyres, brakes and suspension all need bedding in too.
Between 500mls and 1000mls start to gradually increase the revs and the duration at those revs, but remember not to let the engine labour.
After about 1000mls you can then start to use full power but again be gradual about it and work it up.
The above has worked for me on all my bikes including two Blackbirds to date and has produced smooth and powerful motors.
Alternatively you could thrash it from day one as some people seem to!
Hope this helps a bit.
Fletch.
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My advice.
At first, up to about 500mls just be gentle with it, neither letting the engine labour or using lots of revs. Don't let the engine stay at any one speed for too long either. Use the gearbox to the full too and remember that tyres, brakes and suspension all need bedding in too.
Between 500mls and 1000mls start to gradually increase the revs and the duration at those revs, but remember not to let the engine labour.
After about 1000mls you can then start to use full power but again be gradual about it and work it up.
The above has worked for me on all my bikes including two Blackbirds to date and has produced smooth and powerful motors.
Alternatively you could thrash it from day one as some people seem to!
Hope this helps a bit.
Fletch.
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Basically you should keep below 6000rpm for 500 miles. Don't be too gentle with it, use the revs cos it needs a bit of a ragging to run it in properly. Jaws will prolly fill in the niceties.
By the way, enjoy yer new toy, I was there this time last year and I didn't stop grinning til I fell off it in September!
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By the way, enjoy yer new toy, I was there this time last year and I didn't stop grinning til I fell off it in September!
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ianrobbo1
good looking AND modest
I belive
there are two trains of thought,
[1] give it stick from day one, =faster looser and user frendly quicker,etc
[2] pussyfoot about dont take over certain revs for god knows how long etc = longevity of engine life, slower topend??:dunno:
imho, do you ripp the knickers off a new ''bird'' either type!
or do you go gently so you can shag it a lot longer,
your choise:bow:
there are two trains of thought,
[1] give it stick from day one, =faster looser and user frendly quicker,etc
[2] pussyfoot about dont take over certain revs for god knows how long etc = longevity of engine life, slower topend??:dunno:
imho, do you ripp the knickers off a new ''bird'' either type!
or do you go gently so you can shag it a lot longer,
your choise:bow:
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R2B2
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Very contradictive subject this..
... and you'll get replies from both camps, I'm sure.
There are those that run 'em in bookwise, slowly building up and generally being a bit gentle.... and there are those that swear by giving them big-up berries right from the start.
There is a guy in the States who claims to have looked into this quite "scientifically" and reckons he's prooved the need to bang it off the limiter from day one. I read his story and it was quite compelling, all about the extreme revs bedding in the rings better than the nambie pambie approach, and I found myself believing and understanding it. There was a link on this forum somewhere to his findings... somebody might remember where to find it, but sorry, I can't.
I've read about both methods - and they both have seem to have lots of support and both seem to make sense! (if you can make sense of that statement!)
Me? In the end I just couldn't bring myself to howling it down the road from day one so I fell into the nice'n'easy does it category.
I think it's gonna come down to whatever you feel more comfortable with.
Congrats anyway, for netting your new bike.
... and you'll get replies from both camps, I'm sure.
There are those that run 'em in bookwise, slowly building up and generally being a bit gentle.... and there are those that swear by giving them big-up berries right from the start.
There is a guy in the States who claims to have looked into this quite "scientifically" and reckons he's prooved the need to bang it off the limiter from day one. I read his story and it was quite compelling, all about the extreme revs bedding in the rings better than the nambie pambie approach, and I found myself believing and understanding it. There was a link on this forum somewhere to his findings... somebody might remember where to find it, but sorry, I can't.
I've read about both methods - and they both have seem to have lots of support and both seem to make sense! (if you can make sense of that statement!)
Me? In the end I just couldn't bring myself to howling it down the road from day one so I fell into the nice'n'easy does it category.
I think it's gonna come down to whatever you feel more comfortable with.
Congrats anyway, for netting your new bike.
This is indeed a contovercial subject.. My own feelings as far as the Bird goes is:
First 500 just take it easy.. dont be too worried about it but keep it below 7 grand and under no circumstance let the engine labour.
Whilst thrashin the tits off it does work it also means an engine that will proly last you ok, but the next bugger will be in the shite
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After 500 miles raise the game a bit at a time until by the time you reach 800ish miles you can rev it to the redline.. Still though you should not unduly load up the engine.. let it kinda drift up the rev range rather than haul it up by its boots !
By the time you have a grand on her you can go as large and as free as you like !
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But I must reiterate.. this is only MY opinion and the method I have used on bikes for the past eeeerrrrrr XX years :blush:
First 500 just take it easy.. dont be too worried about it but keep it below 7 grand and under no circumstance let the engine labour.
Whilst thrashin the tits off it does work it also means an engine that will proly last you ok, but the next bugger will be in the shite
!After 500 miles raise the game a bit at a time until by the time you reach 800ish miles you can rev it to the redline.. Still though you should not unduly load up the engine.. let it kinda drift up the rev range rather than haul it up by its boots !
By the time you have a grand on her you can go as large and as free as you like !
:beer:
But I must reiterate.. this is only MY opinion and the method I have used on bikes for the past eeeerrrrrr XX years :blush:
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whats all this nonsense?
Keep it below 7k revs for first 500 miles, working up&down the box:bang:
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I read this article by the American bloke (a link to it was on the Triumph Trophy site as well)
The basis of it, its not the acceleration but the DEceleration that does the bedding in ie when you decelerate, the piston rings expand in the bore (think it may have been something to do with crank case pressure being greater than cylinder pressure)
Only know what I did with my bikes - ie took it nice and gently at first, then a Joeboy!!!!
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Both bike engines seem to be perfectly OK and don't use oil or rattle, have not needed any valve adjustments or anything untoward.
Just enjoy it and have FUN
:blush: Pete
I read this article by the American bloke (a link to it was on the Triumph Trophy site as well)
The basis of it, its not the acceleration but the DEceleration that does the bedding in ie when you decelerate, the piston rings expand in the bore (think it may have been something to do with crank case pressure being greater than cylinder pressure)
Only know what I did with my bikes - ie took it nice and gently at first, then a Joeboy!!!!
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.... gave them DEATH!!!!!!!
Both bike engines seem to be perfectly OK and don't use oil or rattle, have not needed any valve adjustments or anything untoward.
Just enjoy it and have FUN
:blush: Pete
Codbasher
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I'm with Clive on this one, old engines need gentle running in, but the new engines, are pretty much OK to GO from the start, my advice take it easy for 500 miles, change oil (gets rid of any small particles of metal) then go for it for 500 miles, oil change again, then give it hell. My view is that any small deposits from the engine can cause more wear than running the engine so keeping the oil spotless is my priority.
By the way I could pick up a brand new Tractor unit in the morning, straight under a loaded trailer (38 tonnes) and be in Scotland that evening, running in, who says.
By the way I could pick up a brand new Tractor unit in the morning, straight under a loaded trailer (38 tonnes) and be in Scotland that evening, running in, who says.
Samster
chamon motherf*cker
My attitude with a new bike these days is that I've got a warranty so what the hell if it lets go.
I was advised by Kawasaki and many to run in my 12 in steps for 2000 miles? I soon got bored of that and did what I wanted with it. Seems fine - 140 in a heartbeat.
I've also read that american article and it does make sense.
I was advised by Kawasaki and many to run in my 12 in steps for 2000 miles? I soon got bored of that and did what I wanted with it. Seems fine - 140 in a heartbeat.
I've also read that american article and it does make sense.
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R2B2
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Err... slight difference I think!!
The truck engine only revs to about 2500 doesn't it...? And runs at a lower temperature!
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Wolfie
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Stuey
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When I picked up my last bike I asked the dealer the same question, with the usual answer off don't labour it, don't over rev it and use the gear box. Fine me thinks.
Then he tells me about a trip he took down to the Triumph factory, where he said at the end of the line, after the fluids were all topped up, the bike was warmed up then RED LINED in every gear on the rollers before being crated up. So there you go...
Stuey
When I picked up my last bike I asked the dealer the same question, with the usual answer off don't labour it, don't over rev it and use the gear box. Fine me thinks.
Then he tells me about a trip he took down to the Triumph factory, where he said at the end of the line, after the fluids were all topped up, the bike was warmed up then RED LINED in every gear on the rollers before being crated up. So there you go...
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Stuey
we heard that story too, on the Triumph Trophy forum.
So explain why, then, do Triumph affix a sticker to the tank of all their brand new bikes that tells you not to exceed so many revs for the first 500, a few more for the next 500 or 1000 etc etc??????
To keep the British sticker industry in work????
They ordered too many and have to use them up?????
Pete decided to do what the sticker told him anyway; didn't want them saying he had invalidated the warranty if something DID go wrong! - nothing did go wrong so we didn't ever test that hypothesis.
I suggest new owners may be well advised to get something in writing from the dealer to confirm whatever they are telling them - Caveat Emptor rules, OK? ("Let the buyer beware")
Jenny (and Pete except he's just resting his eyes ....)
we heard that story too, on the Triumph Trophy forum.
So explain why, then, do Triumph affix a sticker to the tank of all their brand new bikes that tells you not to exceed so many revs for the first 500, a few more for the next 500 or 1000 etc etc??????
To keep the British sticker industry in work????
They ordered too many and have to use them up?????
Pete decided to do what the sticker told him anyway; didn't want them saying he had invalidated the warranty if something DID go wrong! - nothing did go wrong so we didn't ever test that hypothesis.
I suggest new owners may be well advised to get something in writing from the dealer to confirm whatever they are telling them - Caveat Emptor rules, OK? ("Let the buyer beware")
Jenny (and Pete except he's just resting his eyes ....)