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derek kelly

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Considering the state of British roads, pot holes everywhere, what happens if they get pot holes in the channel tunnel?
 

sr71caspar

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The channel tunnel isn't a road it's a train track, so it wouldn't get potholes.
 

andyBeaker

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Considering the state of British roads, pot holes everywhere, what happens if they get pot holes in the channel tunnel?
There aren’t potholes everywhere - 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the road surface is not potholed.

The main thing about potholes is that you have to moan about them on Facebook rather than reporting them. It’s the law.
 

derek kelly

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There aren’t potholes everywhere - 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the road surface is not potholed.

The main thing about potholes is that you have to moan about them on Facebook rather than reporting them. It’s the law.
How about reporting them to the Council until you are sick of reporting them then shaming them on facebook?, our road which is a small close was closed for two days last Month whilst they took the old surface off & relaid the road, lovely job, Lee Lane which is the main route out of the village is being closed for parts of different days whilst they just fill in the pot holes.
 

andyBeaker

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How about reporting them to the Council until you are sick of reporting them then shaming them on facebook?, our road which is a small close was closed for two days last Month whilst they took the old surface off & relaid the road, lovely job, Lee Lane which is the main route out of the village is being closed for parts of different days whilst they just fill in the pot holes.
And if it was closed for a couple of days people would moan about that.

I too live in a dead end and the road surface could do with attention but the reality is that it falls way down the priority list. If Mr Starmer gets in his Magic Money Tree will fund all the repairs needed.
 

Squag1

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Many years ago in Dublin they dug up a main road. It went on for weeks, can't remember what services they were burying.
Delight and great joy, the road was reinstated, almost like a billiard table.

About 3 weeks lated they began at one end and dug a trench the full length of the new surface:eek:

They did road works just outside Limerick city in the 70s. It went on for months if not years. A guy on an a.m. radio show generated a whole section on the show about it.
The phrase I remember is.....from an aerial view....
If they move they are crows, if they don't they are council workers.



He did a candid camers show and caught out his own father in his garage. That was funny.
 

andyBeaker

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Many years ago in Dublin they dug up a main road. It went on for weeks, can't remember what services they were burying.
Delight and great joy, the road was reinstated, almost like a billiard table.

About 3 weeks lated they began at one end and dug a trench the full length of the new surface:eek:

They did road works just outside Limerick city in the 70s. It went on for months if not years. A guy on an a.m. radio show generated a whole section on the show about it.
The phrase I remember is.....from an aerial view....
If they move they are crows, if they don't they are council workers.



He did a candid camers show and caught out his own father in his garage. That was funny.
When we moved here we applied to have a second ramp/dropped kerb from the road installed so we could have an ‘in and out’ drive.

It was appproved. When we were away on holiday BT did some work in the road and installed a new chamber exactly where the ramp was to go meaning we couldn’t have the ramp that we applied and got permission for.

Took us ages to get the £700+ upfront fee we had to pay with the application back from the council As they initially said ‘nothing to do with us guv’. They thought i would leave it there…….WRONG!
 

derek kelly

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And if it was closed for a couple of days people would moan about that.

I too live in a dead end and the road surface could do with attention but the reality is that it falls way down the priority list. If Mr Starmer gets in his Magic Money Tree will fund all the repairs needed.
Most people would rather they shut the road for a week & do the job properly, whilst they’re at it they could reduce the size of the huge roundabout that causes numerous accidents.
 

Cougar377

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I read a news story somewhere about a large pothole outside a school.
No amount of moaning to the council made any difference, until some wag spray painted a giant cock and balls outline around it.

It was fixed within days.
 

JayTee

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I read a news story somewhere about a large pothole outside a school.
No amount of moaning to the council made any difference, until some wag spray painted a giant cock and balls outline around it.

It was fixed within days.
Same thing happened down here, maybe it’s the way to deal with it, embarrassing them into it.
 

andyBeaker

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Same thing happened down here, maybe it’s the way to deal with it, embarrassing them into it.
The hard fact is that the money is not there to pay for all the repairs. A huge amount (i forget how much but in the billions) has just been allocated from central government to the county councils to help address the issue but it was acknowledged that that was nowhere near enough.
 

JayTee

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The hard fact is that the money is not there to pay for all the repairs. A huge amount (i forget how much but in the billions) has just been allocated from central government to the county councils to help address the issue but it was acknowledged that that was nowhere near enough.
The money has always been there Andrew. The fact that the government slyly rebranded vehicle road tax into an excise licence way back in time giving them the opportunity to misappropriate the funds in what ever way they thought fit seems to have been forgotten or not known about by the general public.
Remember government has no money only that which it takes from the public or forges by putting the printing presses into action.
 

andyBeaker

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The money has always been there Andrew. The fact that the government slyly rebranded vehicle road tax into an excise licence way back in time giving them the opportunity to misappropriate the funds in what ever way they thought fit seems to have been forgotten or not known about by the general public.
Remember government has no money only that which it takes from the public or forges by putting the printing presses into action.
I depends which way you look at it. The estimated cost of bringing UK roads up to scratch was estimated at (from memory) something around £18bn. That sort of money simply isn’t laying around regardless of which ‘pot’ it comes from.

That is an unpleasant fact.
 

Squag1

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I depends which way you look at it. The estimated cost of bringing UK roads up to scratch was estimated at (from memory) something around £18bn. That sort of money simply isn’t laying around regardless of which ‘pot’ it comes from.

That is an unpleasant fact.
Well if you were still in EU ......:couch:
 

JayTee

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I depends which way you look at it. The estimated cost of bringing UK roads up to scratch was estimated at (from memory) something around £18bn. That sort of money simply isn’t laying around regardless of which ‘pot’ it comes from.

That is an unpleasant fact.
I agree it is an unpleasant fact, but it still doesn’t excuse the fact that the money has been misappropriated. The motorists have long been abused as a cash cow for years the least we should expect after the hoops we have to jump through to maintain our vehicles to a safe standard and the tax we pay on fuel, mandatory insurance and said “excise licence” is a surface safe to drive on. To be able to drive looking out for other motorists and pedestrians rather than monitoring the surface of the road as a priority for safety is fast becoming a luxury.
 

Duck n Dive

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I don't think it's as much misappropriation as sneaky sleight of hand.

Over the last few decades central government has devolved more and more to county/local councils quoting the mantra of putting the power to spend where local accountability is.

They've then systematically stripped local government of the funds needed for all those things (care of the elderly/mental health services/schools/special needs/social housing/police/fire services.....) and way, way down towards the bottom of a very long list is roads.

It's also what has been going on with various councils "going bankrupt".
They squeezed funding then in response to the bleating told councils they were sitting on a big pot of money (for wages/schools/mental heath etc) and they should leverage that to improve their income. They were encouraged to invest that in things like overnight investments etc.

Councils, at first, found this a wizard wheeze, money for nothing!

Then Central Government took that into account and squeezed the pips even more, it was so easy as they didn't have to actually "do" anything, just not give them as much in the grant.

Then councils countered by using more risky investments to get the "magic money".

Then it all blew up in their faces.
Oh, and central government had the wizard wheeze of rescuing them using a "deprived areas special grant/fund".
Which miraculously seemed to end up with councils the same shade of blue as the government and not exactly what most might think of as deprived.


Rant mode off, for now :)
 
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