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Wolfie

Is a lunp
New European motorcycle driving licence proposals currently before the European Parliament have been condemned as misguided and unnecessary by the British Motorcyclists Federation.


The BMF, the UK?s largest riders rights organisation and a respected body in the motorcycle training field, says that despite the findings of the recently completed ?2.5 million ?Motorcycle Accident In-Depth Study? (MAIDS) research project, funded by European taxpayers, the motorcycle industry and other bodies including the BMF, the findings have been largely ignored.

MAIDS research showed that the three key factors in rider safety are the behaviour of other road users; rider experience and the road environment, but European Parliament Transport Committee proposals relating to the draft EU 3rd Driving Licence Directive ignore these. The proposals will:


? Allow Member States freedom to increase the access ages to mopeds, scooters and motorcycles up to 26 years of age with the possible result of wide variation across the EU

? Specify structured training (that due to small numbers is not commercially viable)

? Specify minimum engine capacity (as well as power requirements) for the various test vehicle categories, therefore significantly restricting the range of test vehicles

? Continue to restrict car licence holders to 50cc mopeds

And further:

? Are inconsistent with the aim of harmonisation recommended by the initial draft directive

? Are a step backwards in social mobility from the existing situation

? Will have little effect on motorcycle safety as other road users are main contributors to PTW accidents

Now, in an unprecedented close alliance, European groups, the Federation of European Motorcyclists Associations (FEMA), the manufacturer group the Association des Constructeurs Europ?ens de Motocycles (ACEM), and the governing body F?d?ration Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM), have united to bring pressure on the European Parliament.

In a letter to UK Members of the European Parliament, supporters of the alliance, namely the British Motorcyclists Federation, Motorcycle Action Group, Motorcycle Industry Association and other members of the National Motorcycle Council, have called upon European Parliamentarians to take action to ensure that the Directive is either re-drafted to take account of their joint concerns or is rejected.

Commenting, the BMF say that the EU proposal is premature and will create unacceptable financial barriers to motorcycling without guaranteeing any improvement in motorcycle safety.

BMF Senior Government Relations Executive Trevor Magner said: ?I am amazed that after funding the MAIDS road safety project we should be facing a 3rd Driving Licence Directive that does not directly address any of the real issues. The BMF advocates that maintaining the legislation regarding access to motorcycles and scooters, (as presently in force under the 2nd Driving Licence Directive), would be a sensible move because under subsidiarity rules, appropriate improvements to current licensing schemes can already be implemented by Member States.?




so instead of tackling

"behaviour of other road users; rider experience and the road environment,"


THEY ARE GOING TO PUSH THE AGE UP TO 26 BEFORE YOU CAN RIDE A BIKE!!!!!!


Will have little effect on motorcycle safety as other road users are main contributors to PTW accidents


THANK FUCK FOR THAT!!! THOUGHT THE RIDER WAS ALWAYS AT FAULT :bang: :bang:

Dont bother making the roads safer, traning car drivers to spot ALL dangers etc etc etc, just squeeze the motorcyclist some more and prehaps they will give up, die, not bother to start riding, then we wont have to worry about them any more!!!! they will just die out.


DEAR European Parliament Transport Committee,

FECK OFF AND DIE YERSELVES YER LOAD OF MURDERING SCUM. :bang: :bang:

Signed



Mr Calm
in the shithouse.
shithole
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NoBBy

Guest
Yep looks that way. Holland once debated in Parliament to completely ban Motorbike.

But if everyone loved Bikes would you???? I think most of us still like the outlaw image a bit.
 

gypsy

MAN on the PAN
Wait till the introduction of " Super training centres "
then the cost alone will kill it
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
if everyone loved Bikes would you???? I think most of us still like the outlaw image a bit.

:lol: :lol: feck me!!!!

Mr Motorcyclist(most riders today) is not , never has been or ever will be an outlaw!!! gay coloured leathers with bright coloured bikes is YMCA not outlaw.

breaking the speed limit is not outlaw, grannys do it on their scooters.

I ride for me, because i love it, not because i want to be an outlaw.

Move the car age to 30 then no kids/teenagers will get killed driving their souped up novas etc etc etc, in fact ban all vehicles except public transport and goods lorries, make the people walk or cycle then we would cut polution and have a fit an heathly nation, with clean air.
 

Grey Wolf

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The More

I hear about the European Union
The more I think that maybe Kilroy Silk might make a good PM %$fan
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
Wilf said:
:lol: :lol: feck me!!!!
Mr Motorcyclist(most riders today) is not , never has been or ever will be an outlaw!!! gay coloured leathers with bright coloured bikes is YMCA not outlaw.
OY!!! :t I hope thats not a "dig" at me,!!! :mad: :rolleyes:
 

Centaur

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Kiss???

Wolfie said:
:lol: :lol: feck me!!!!

Mr Motorcyclist(most riders today) is not , never has been or ever will be an outlaw!!! gay coloured leathers with bright coloured bikes is YMCA not outlaw.

breaking the speed limit is not outlaw, grannys do it on their scooters.

I ride for me, because i love it, not because i want to be an outlaw.

Move the car age to 30 then no kids/teenagers will get killed driving their souped up novas etc etc etc, in fact ban all vehicles except public transport and goods lorries, make the people walk or cycle then we would cut polution and have a fit an heathly nation, with clean air.
Although I agree with your sentiments Wolfie I will NOT kiss your ass. :t
 
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BraXX

Guest
no problem

On this site because in fact XX riders are all well past the 30s.
But mr. Calm should agree that riders experience and familiarity with the road enviroment are factors that only buid up with age.
Let the kids live longer by keeping them far from the R1s and SRADS for a while, no hurry :yo:
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
ah but experience does not tell you that a new pothole has sprung up in the last 3 days.
 
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BraXX

Guest
now you think about it

Wolfie said:
ah but experience does not tell you that a new pothole has sprung up in the last 3 days.

But what a **** would you give for a "pothole that might have ......" when you where 18 ?, setting up for a bend, chasing someone......
Experience is everything when you?re on the limit, just the other day i was reading a thread about you slipping and not going down , wasn?t it ?
What could have saved it from going down, ya accurate young soul reflexes :eek:
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
but i gain that experience skill luck etc etc but starting riding at 15, so i would of had 21 years to build up the expereince, start riding at 26 and you have got 10 years!!
 
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BraXX

Guest
For sure the sooner you start sooner you get there, also, there wasn't todays bikes on those good old times, eh.

my point is more like that, experience aside, 18 year old people are coming from a very predictable, select and controled school environment (or should be) and should be introduced to the road environment, wich is the widest door open to the "other life" in a safer vehicle than a superbike.
I just can't agree with people that only could get a 600 cc bike well past 30 years old and simply give such bikes to their 16 kids, like a friend of mine just did.
 
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